# NousResearch/hermes-agent · Timestamp carry-over ordering during in-place state compaction

## Open now

- 1 issue, 3 PRs open on GitHub.
- #138355: \`_carry_parent_timestamps\` is a no-op in both in-place compaction paths: the archive runs before its donor query, so carried copies drift to \`now_ts\` and one logical message renders twice
- PR #138360: fix(state): preserve timestamps during in-place compaction
- PR #138364: fix(state): carry parent timestamps before the archive, not after
- PR #138377: fix(state): run the timestamp carry before the in-place compaction archive

Three items concern \`_carry_parent_timestamps\` in in-place compaction: an issue reports it as a no-op because the archive runs before its donor query, so carried copies get \`now_ts\` and one message may render twice. Two PR titles propose fixes around preserving timestamps and moving the carry step before the archive.

## TL;DR

- 4 member(s): 1 open issue(s), 0 closed issue(s), 3 open PR(s), 0 merged PR(s), 0 PR(s) closed without merging.
- No fix has been merged to main; one or more PRs were attempted (see below).
- **Recommended:** review the prior/competing PR(s) below. A fix was attempted but not merged; your case may extend or revive that work.

## Maintainer resolution verdict

- Internal-tracker verdict over this cluster's issue members: `unresolved`. This is distinct from the fix status above. Weigh it yourself.

## How this cluster was grouped

- Link evidence (`STRUCTURAL_SPANNING`): every member is connected by structural evidence: shared changed files, or a closing/superseded reference.
- Pairwise link density `0.50`: the share of member pairs that carry a link, counting a structural link in full and a relevance-only link at 0.36. `1.00` means every pair is linked.

## Open related issues

- #138355: \`_carry_parent_timestamps\` is a no-op in both in-place compaction paths: the archive runs before its donor query, so carried copies drift to \`now_ts\` and one logical message renders twice

## Prior & competing PRs

- **#138360: fix(state): preserve timestamps during in-place compaction**. open
  - maintainer direction: category `silent_close`; implication `active`
  - files: `hermes_state_messages.py`, `tests/hermes_state/test_in_place_timestamp_carry.py`
- **#138364: fix(state): carry parent timestamps before the archive, not after**. open
  - maintainer direction: category `silent_close`; implication `active`
  - files: `hermes_state_messages.py`
- **#138377: fix(state): run the timestamp carry before the in-place compaction archive**. open
  - maintainer direction: category `silent_close`; implication `active`
  - files: `hermes_state_messages.py`, `tests/hermes_state/test_carry_parent_timestamps_inplace_order.py`

## Fix status

- No merged fix on record.
- Subsystem: `agent`