# NousResearch/hermes-agent · Telegram polling 409 conflict retry counter and infinite loop

## Open now

- Nothing open on GitHub.

These members all concern Telegram polling hitting repeated 409 Conflict errors, where the conflict retry counter appears to reset or not increment, so the fatal/restart path may never be reached. Some are issue reports and others are proposed fixes, with approaches such as preserving the counter across retries or adding a wall-clock escalation.

## TL;DR

- 5 member(s): 0 open issue(s), 2 closed issue(s), 0 open PR(s), 0 merged PR(s), 3 PR(s) closed without merging.
- No fix has been merged to main; one or more PRs were attempted (see below).
- **Recommended:** review the prior/competing PR(s) below. A fix was attempted but not merged; your case may extend or revive that work.

## Maintainer resolution verdict

- Internal-tracker verdict over this cluster's issue members: `unresolved`. This is distinct from the fix status above. Weigh it yourself.

## How this cluster was grouped

- Link evidence (`STRUCTURAL_PARTIAL`): some members are connected by structural evidence (shared changed files, or a closing/superseded reference); the rest are joined by an automated relevance judgement over their text.
- Members outside that structural core may belong to a different underlying problem.
- Pairwise link density `0.34`: the share of member pairs that carry a link, counting a structural link in full and a relevance-only link at 0.36. `1.00` means every pair is linked.

## Closed / duplicate issues

- #58484: Telegram polling conflict (1/5) retry counter never increments — infinite reconnect loop
- #63724: Telegram: persistent 409 Conflict loops forever — conflict counter resets on start_polling(), fatal/restart path unreachable, bot silently deaf

## Prior & competing PRs

- **#58492: fix(telegram): keep polling conflict counter across successful retries**. closed without merge · fix tier `suggested`
  - maintainer direction: category `uncategorized`; implication `needs_llm`; refs `#58492`, `#64361`
  - _suggested-tier fix detail withheld; re-request with `?tier=all` to include it._
- **#64064: fix(telegram): escalate persistent 409 Conflict to fatal via wall-clock gate**. closed without merge · fix tier `suggested`
  - maintainer direction: category `superseded_by_pr`; implication `superseded`; refs `b8295cf6f737a9ff1a4696cef5fab9d010e27d3d`
  - _suggested-tier fix detail withheld; re-request with `?tier=all` to include it._
- **#64082: fix(telegram): break infinite 409 conflict loop by not resetting counter on polling success (#63724)**. closed without merge
  - maintainer direction: category `duplicate_of`; implication `duplicate`; refs `#63724`, `#58484`, `#58492`, `#64064`, `#64082`

## Fix status

- No merged fix on record.