# NousResearch/hermes-agent · Reasoning off command disables vs hides thinking

## Open now

- 1 issue, 1 PR open on GitHub.
- #90431: \`/reasoning off\` hides thinking instead of disabling it, concealing that you are still paying for it
- PR #128404: fix(reasoning): make /reasoning off disable reasoning instead of hiding it

These issues and PRs concern a behavior where \`/reasoning off\` hides the display of thinking output rather than actually disabling it, meaning users may still incur costs. The members discuss warning users and/or changing the command to truly disable reasoning.

## TL;DR

- 3 member(s): 1 open issue(s), 0 closed issue(s), 1 open PR(s), 0 merged PR(s), 1 PR(s) closed without merging.
- No fix has been merged to main; one or more PRs were attempted (see below).
- **Recommended:** review the prior/competing PR(s) below. A fix was attempted but not merged; your case may extend or revive that work.

## Maintainer resolution verdict

- Internal-tracker verdict over this cluster's issue members: `unresolved`. This is distinct from the fix status above. Weigh it yourself.

## How this cluster was grouped

- Link evidence (`STRUCTURAL_SPANNING`): every member is connected by structural evidence: shared changed files, or a closing/superseded reference.
- Pairwise link density `0.67`: the share of member pairs that carry a link, counting a structural link in full and a relevance-only link at 0.36. `1.00` means every pair is linked.

## Open related issues

- #90431: \`/reasoning off\` hides thinking instead of disabling it, concealing that you are still paying for it

## Prior & competing PRs

- **#90626: fix(cli, gateway): warn when /reasoning off hides display but thinking still runs**. closed without merge
  - maintainer direction: category `superseded_by_pr`; implication `superseded`; refs `#90434`
- **#128404: fix(reasoning): make /reasoning off disable reasoning instead of hiding it**. open
  - maintainer direction: category `uncategorized`; implication `needs_llm`
  - files: `apps/desktop/src/app/session/hooks/use-hermes-config.test.ts`, `apps/desktop/src/app/session/hooks/use-hermes-config.ts`, `gateway/slash_commands_model.py`, `hermes_cli/cli_commands_mixin.py`, `hermes_constants.py`, `tests/gateway/test_reasoning_command.py`, `tests/hermes_cli/test_reasoning_command.py`, `tests/test_hermes_constants.py`, `tests/tui_gateway/test_tui_gateway_server.py`, `tui_gateway/methods_config.py`, `tui_gateway/methods_config_set.py`

## Fix status

- No merged fix on record.
- Subsystem: `agent`