# NousResearch/hermes-agent · Reasoning floor overriding explicit stale timeout bug

## Open now

- Nothing open on GitHub.

A bug where an explicit \`stale_timeout_seconds\` value is ignored in streaming paths because a reasoning-model floor (600s) is applied via \`max()\`, overriding the user-specified setting. Multiple related fixes and reports address this same issue.

## TL;DR

- 4 member(s): 0 open issue(s), 1 closed issue(s), 0 open PR(s), 0 merged PR(s), 3 PR(s) closed without merging.
- No fix has been merged to main; one or more PRs were attempted (see below).
- **Recommended:** review the prior/competing PR(s) below. A fix was attempted but not merged; your case may extend or revive that work.

## Maintainer resolution verdict

- Internal-tracker verdict over this cluster's issue members: `unresolved`. This is distinct from the fix status above. Weigh it yourself.

## How this cluster was grouped

- Link evidence (`STRUCTURAL_SPANNING`): every member is connected by structural evidence: shared changed files, or a closing/superseded reference.
- Pairwise link density `0.50`: the share of member pairs that carry a link, counting a structural link in full and a relevance-only link at 0.36. `1.00` means every pair is linked.

## Closed / duplicate issues

- #99707: \[Bug\]: Explicit stale_timeout_seconds is ignored in streaming path — reasoning floor (600s) still applied via max()

## Prior & competing PRs

- **#86949: fix(timeouts): reasoning-model floor must not override explicit stale_timeout_seconds**. closed without merge
  - maintainer direction: category `implemented_elsewhere`; implication `superseded`; refs `80154cf3cf`
- **#99739: fix(agent): honor explicit stale_timeout_seconds over reasoning floor in streaming paths**. closed without merge
  - maintainer direction: category `superseded_by_pr`; implication `superseded`; refs `80154cf3cf`
- **#100687: fix(agent): honor explicit stale_timeout_seconds over reasoning floor in streaming path (#99707)**. closed without merge
  - maintainer direction: category `stale_abandoned`; implication `active`

## Fix status

- No merged fix on record.
- Subsystem: `agent`